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Re: début polaires vor 1415

Message par blzblz » 18 janv. 2015 04:56

Hi PhilUSA

Merci pour ta remarque, oui il y a bien un bug d'interpolation pour certaines valeurs de vent sur les polaires du DSUltim qu'on avait utilisées pour la première course, la route du rhum.
Je me répète: on n'utilise pas ce bateau et ces polaires en ce moment.
Cependant, ça serait bien d'avoir des polaires plus propres pour pouvoir l'utiliser sur une course future.

Je n'ai pas le souvenir qu'il y ait ce problème d'effet de seuil sur les polaires de la VOR ni sur celles des 2 challenges (même bateau sur les deux challenges).

Toutes les polaires viennent pour l'instant de celles récupérées sur vrtoutoulz avant que ça ferme.

Mon script de génération des polaires a assurément un bug, puisque ça génère cet effet de seuil dans certain cas.

Pour info, je colle ci-dessous les informations "brutes" de la page vrtoutoulz du DSUltim de la route du rhum.
Et voilà un lien vers le fichier csv des 89000 et quelques valeurs du résultat si tu veux te pencher dessus, et essayer de rajouter l'interpolation là où elle manque. Il n'y a pas peut-être pas trop de travail, ça peut peut-être se faire à la main:
http://195.154.11.17/rg/regatta_01/visu ... sultim.csv

Je suis pour avoir plusieurs jeux de polaires sous la main, pour plus de divertissement, mais ce n'est pas vraiment la top priorité actuellement: d'abord rétablir la procédure de chargement des vents, ensuite améliorer quelques fonctionalités et faire un peu de ménage par-ci par-là...

Bon vent !


Edit: si tu as d'autres polaires et que tu peux générer un fichier csv du même type que celui ci-dessus, ce serait très facile de les intégrer dans le jeu...



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Re: début polaires vor 1415

Message par PhilUSA » 18 janv. 2015 11:42

Hi Blaise

Je me suis leve a 3h du mat et je n'aurais pas du regarder ton post, car du coup je suis reste devant l'ecran. Cela m'a permis de voir que "PhilUSA" sur la VOR, ne garde pas son cap!!! Je l'ai mis a 90 et en venant voir une fois de temps en temps je le retrouvais entre 88 et 91. Domage car etant en bird de case il se retrouvait dans la case du dessus, nettement moins bonne.
Cela sera un bug a reproduire et analyser, plus tard.

Par contre pour ton bug d'interpolation j'ai mis de la couleur dans le tableau et j'ai vu que a chaque fois qu'il y a deux valeurs entieres qui se suivent, tu n'as pas d'interpolation. J'ai releve 19 paliers sur les voiles 3, 4, 5, 6 et 7.
Un exemple: 14Kn, voile5, twa150, V=12, et twa160, V=9 =>interpolation en escalier
idem pour les escaliers a 30kn, voile 3, avec twa 50 v=13, et twa 60 ,v=15 qui est l'exemple que tu avais releve.

D'apres ce que je vois tu as un bug sur l'interpolation entre deux entiers. A voir pour d'autres courses.

Pour ce qui est des polaires des autres bateaux, j'en ai effectivement quelques unes, mais je vais tendre la main vers Christian, qui j'espere ne m'en voudra pas, mais je pense que vu comme il sait tout de vr, il a bien dans un coin de son ordi les fichiers csv de pas mal de bateaux. J'en profite pour ne pas limiter la demande qu'a Christian, car vu les noms des testeurs presents, je serais surpris et decu que personne ne dise qu'il ai tel ou tel bateaux.

A votre bon coeur Messieurs Dames. Si vous avez des fichiers csv, merci de les partager afin de nous creer une base de donnees plus large.

Sur ce, je retourne me coucher pendant une heure. Petite nuit. lol
Philipp

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Re: début polaires vor 1415

Message par blzblz » 18 janv. 2015 15:46

Philipp,

Pour le bug, je t'ai répondu dans le fil "Le projet" / "Rapportez les bugs" / "Le régulateur".

Ok pour essayer de mouliner des fichiers pour avoir des nouvelles polaires, même si ce n'est pas ça qui presse le plus.

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